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Re: Microsoft Windows® 7: Prva iskustva

^{31.10.2008. u 18:30 - pre 200 meseci}

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reb0rn: pa odgovor je jako jednostavan, zelis vecu sigurnost podataka, nove aplikacije koje koriste nivi UI, GPGPU, nove igre preces na WIN7 ili sad Vistu....... ako ne ima korisnika koji i dalje koriste win 98 jer im vise ne treba ali je njihov broj jakooo mali

e da Vistin GUI je debelo brzi od XP-vog je koristi 3D GPU koji je brzi od 2D dela i to enormno

Ovo je TRAGIČNO rastegljiva stvar, a nije jasno na šta si tačno mislio? Nije da je to tema ove diskusije, ali svakako se treba razjasniti, da neko neupućen ne bi izveo pogrešne zaključke.

Ako govorimo o 3D grafici generalno, a posebno u domenu igara, XP je još uvek spejs-šatl u odnosu na Vistu.
Ljudi često kupe ljute mašine i poteraju neku novu igru, zaključe da radi OK i dalje ih ne interesuje. Malobrojni, koji se odvaže da istu tu igru, na istoj konfiguraciji, probaju i na XP-u, dožive "Revelation" onim što vide.

Vista je "big-bang", ali u rikverc, kada su performanse pojedinih operacija (nazovimo ih tako) u pitanju.

A ako je Ivan u pravu sa svojim pretpostavkama/činjenicama (pošto kapiram da je bolje upućen, budući da mu je zbrka oko OS-a uvek usko vezana za posao), onda ni Win7 ne može da bude nešto mnogo daleko od Viste.

U svakom slučaju, ova Vista SE (od Second Edition) bi mogla da krene u dva smera: prvi bi bio znatno poboljšanje performansi, odnosno sveopšta optimizacija, uz neke dodatne kozmetičke dopune, a drugi bi mogao biti običan marketinški potez, koji bi zametnuo trag Visti i ubedio dosad kolebljive korisnike da su "bili u pravu što su preskočili Vistu, jer - ovo je ono pravo", iako bi ispod haube bila samo došminkana Vista... drugim rečima, "čista navlakuša™", klapa dva.

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Re: Microsoft Windows® 7: Prva iskustva

^{31.10.2008. u 21:05 - pre 200 meseci}

Mislim da ova verzija, koja se nudi na torrentima nema bas puno veze sa onom koja je neki dan javno predstavljena od strane Microsofta.
Više liči na Vistu u kojoj je samo editovana "lična karta" sistema(?)

Koliko sam shvatio iz dosadašnjih komentara novi taskbar će biti na raspolaganju tek sa Beta1 verzijom, koja se planira za prvu polovinu 2009.

Ako je tačan makar samo delić navoda iz donjeg teksta, koji novi Windows 7 kuje u zvezde, onda ipak nije u pitanju "samo novi skin za Vistu"(!?!)

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I just loaded up the PDC build in two virtual machines and after seeing it’s performance in the VM’s (VMWare and Hyper-V) I decided to remove my main HD, install a spare 250 GB drive I have sitting on a shelf (you should see my office… I have a lot of stuff laying around for testing purposes) and after about 30 minutes of doing some basic and a couple of application installations (Messenger, Office 2007, etc…) I have concluded this OS puts Windows Vista to shame. TO SHAME!

Who in the hell at Microsoft decided to actually make Explorer useful and understandable?

Who decided that running the x64 version of Windows 7 in 1.5 GB of RAM should actually perform?

What engineering team decided Internet Explorer 8.0 should fly through the internet?

What group thought to protect a users data via a simple and dynamic RAID 0 setup was a good idea?

What brain-trust had the audacity to come up with the idea that when an application is minimized it should release it's unused system resources back to the OS? WHO? Who did this? I want answers!

Honest to god, I think the folks at Microsoft are trying to make my head explode! I can’t handle this kind of performance. I just can’t. I had to load it on three machines just to make sure someone up in Redmond wasn’t screwing with me!

Right now, I have 6 applications open, including three independent Internet Explorer browsers, Word 2007, Powerpoint 2007, Windows Messenger, AVG Free 8.0, and a couple of Explorer windows and I am using a TOTAL of 900MB. DID YOU READ THAT MICROSOFT! 900 MB Total! ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL ME!

I am absolutely stupefied the engineers at Microsoft decided to develop, using the Windows Vista/2008 kernel no less, a stellar OS even in this early stage. I can’t handle this!!! I am not use to this. I am use to bloatware. I am use to slow… I am use to… Vista.

I am use to Vista pausing for no apparent reason and having to hold onto my laptop praying it doesn’t take off like a UFO.

I'm use to Vista kicking my processor up so high I could use the heat from the fan on the bottom of my laptop to dry my hair.

I am use to having to shove 4 – 8 GB of RAM into every system I own just to get Vista to perform.

I am use to scores of fellow techs hammering me about how Vista is killing them from a hardware and resource perspective (like I have a “bat phone” directly to Mr. Ballmer and Mr. Gates).

I am use to defending Vista having to wear full battle gear damn near every time I talk to someone about Vista which, if I really think about it, leads me to believe the engineers at MS are trying to take away my job and actually develop an OS that’s useful, fast and flat out what Vista should have been. I'm watching you engineers like a HAWK now!

So, here is what I need for you all to do: Pay NO attention to Windows 7. Run out right now and buy Vista and stay with that for… ever. Pay NO attention to anything Microsoft, or the tech community says about Windows 7. Forget Windows 7… wait for Windows…. 10.

The reason I am saying this is simple. Microsoft is about to put out a truly terrific OS and I’m worried about your health. When you get your hands on this OS your head could possibly explode. Seriously, you might have a brain aneurysm and die. You will not be use to the performance. You will not be use to the included applications being useful and actually helpful. You will not be use to the web and web services actually providing useful applications which work. You will not be use to your laptop battery actually lasting. You will not be use to faster startup times.

Bottom line: If you use Windows 7 you might keel over and die. Only the truly strong and young people on planet earth should attempt using Windows 7, since I think they are the only ones with the entire body strength and mindset to absorb what MS is about to release.

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